_ living islam : Islamic tradition _ https://www.livingislam.org/ Question about the interpretation of a Dominant Character Hadith Q1: Hadith: Anas b. Malik reported that Umm Sulaim narrated it that she asked the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) about a woman who sees in a dream what a man sees (sexual dream). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon bi m) said: In case a woman sees that, she must take a bath. Umm Sulaim said: I was bashful on account of that and said: Does it happen? Upon this the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Yes (it does happen), otherwise how can (a child) resemble her? Man's discharge (i. e. sperm) is thick and white and the discharge of woman is thin and yellow; so the resemblance comes from the one whose genes prevail or dominate." [...see below Q2] A: A hadith is the gist of what a narrator, in effect, *understood to have seen and heard*. The scholars of hadith then shed the spotlight in holistic terms, like detectives reconstituting a scene, on the different aspects related to Arabic style, textual variants and precedence, internal consistency, the Prophetic idiom and so forth. A non-mutawatir-lafzi hadith is by definition not a film of the events retelling every single verbal and actual detail into which we can read literal conclusions. And even the language of a mutawatir lafzi is not meant to be forcibly made compliant with the standards of contemporary scientific discourse. As Dr. Muzaffar Iqbal pointed out in the latter chapters of his book _Science and Islam_, one of the mistakes of Muslim "scientistic" apologetics is to try to fish out from the early sources some kind of precise demonstrations and arguments for latter-day discussions. This is anachronistic and is not going to work. This failure of Sayyid Ahmad Khan's "Naytshuriyya" (naturalist materialism) and the Egyptian "Reformists" and their pseudo-scientific Tafsirs, in many respects lives on in Harun Yahya's vulgarization literature. It is enough that our sources give every sound mind *a perception of coherence* in general terms, which faith then completes and categorizes as a mu`jiza. To chisel and hew the early sources into some kind of scientific-journal type of demonstration, however, is not only a mistake but a recipe for a wholesale dismissive backlash. To go back to the Dominant Character Hadith, it is in line with the economy and concision of the Prophetic speech to assume there is a discursive switch from the "fluid discharge during sleep" mentioned in the question, to the "corpus luteum produced by the woman's ovum" that contributes genes and chromosomes to the fetus. This switch is logical: the reply not only gives the first woman the fawta that ghusl is required just as it would be - as per her own simile - after a man's sperm discharge; it also adds information which puts to rest Umm Sulaym's follow-up implied denial of female and male procreative physiology being on a par. The Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, in essence replies: "They are on a par except for the detail of precedence of sperm and corpus luteum which results in unilateral resemblance." And Allah Most High knows best. GF Haddad 2009-01-04 Q2: The question was concerning the above-mentioned hadith: "...Orientalists claim that the hadith supports the idea that Muhammad (sallAllahu alayhi wasallam) said that the fluids emitted by females during sexual dreams contribute to the creation of a child. With the proposed interpretation in the above article (and various Islamic articles discussing this hadith), the meaning of discharge changes mid way through; the discharge that the woman asks about is the one that is emitted during sexual dreams, while the woman's discharge that the rasul is referring to in the last statement of the hadith refers to the fluid containing the ovum. Orientalists claim that there's no reason for the change in definition, and that the discharge being referred to in the last statement is the one being referred to in the women's question (the discharge during sexual dreams), and the hadith implies this, hence Muhammad (sallAllahu alayhi wasallam) believed that females emitted something analogous to the sperm (in that it has the potential to fertilize) in males during sexual dreams. How would one answer this objection with regards to the meaning of discharge in the above hadith?" Q3: Would you say that one of the reasons we have different rules for treating narrations as compared to the rules that non-Muslims have treating their scriptures is because the basic structure of a "hadith" is much different from the basic structure of lets say... the text in the Bible? If so, then there's a fundamental methodological difference between the way we interpret our texts and the way others do. A: The book I cited by Muzaffar Iqbal begins on this important point, which is that the Western science-religion divide has been erroneously exported from the Christian sphere to Islam whereas it does not properly apply to the latter. GF Haddad 2009-01-05 .-.