Bismillahi Al-Rahmani Al-Rahim

Eid Coinciding With Friday (2)

Assalamu Alaikum,

You mentioned that the Eid salat is at the same time as the Jumuah salat. How is this possible while the Eid salat is prayed well before the time of the Jumuah salat?  The latest the Eid salat is performed is roughly 10: 45 am (in the western countries, since the masajid have several Eid salawat due to lack of space), this time is at least an hour before the time for dhur comes in.

Which scholar or has written or said that with the absence of the Imam it is valid not to pray the Jum'ah salat after praying the Eid salat?

wa `alaykum al-salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

The issue here is not one of contemporary performance, but whether it is legally valid according to the Hanbali madhhab.

When I wrote that the time for Jumu`ah and `Eid are identical I over simplified the matter at the cost of accuracy. While it is true that they have identical starting times, they do have different ending times. They both begin when the sun has risen enough to pray Duha; and `Eid ends when the sun reaches its zenith whereas Jumu`ah ends at the beginning of `Asr.

As for praying `Eid with the Imam being a condition for not having to pray Jumu`ah: Ibn Qudamah does not mentions this condition when talking about the issue in Al-Mughni. When I asked my sheikh about this yesterday, he also said that the Imam is not a condition for this. But we should note that when they talk about this issue, what they are talking about is that it is not personally obligatory for people to attend Jumu`ah. The issue here is attendance. Al-Raud Al-Murbi` likens such people to the sick, who are not personally obligated to attend Jumu`ah while they are still obligated to pray Zuhr. Since they are likened to sick people, I understand this to mean that Zuhr would still be obligatory for them.

The evidence for both issues is based on interpretations of sound and non-sound hadiths, interpretation that is strengthened by the performance of  several Companions--including some of the Rightly Guided Caliphs (Allah be pleased with them one and all)--without anyone objecting. Several of the early Imams agreed with one or more of these positions, including Al-Sha`bi and Al-Nakha`i. Anyone interested in the issue can look at Al-Mughni for more information (close to the end of the section on Al-Jumu`ah).

Ma sha Allah, this issue got quite a bit of attention this year.and the issue and the evidence from Hanbali sources.

And Allah knows best.

wa al-salamu `alaykum