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Did the mufassiroon take from Ja'far (ra)?


The mufassiroon took from Ja'far, the fuqahaa took from him, the Muhaddithoon took from him, everyone took from him except Shaykh Bukhari.

Inaccurate, not to say false.
(1) The Mufassirûn and Sîra compilers generally had a more encompassing quantity and less strict rules of narration than the rest so that there is no comparison between them and Sahih al-Bukhari.
(2) The Fuqahâ' did take from Ja`far, among other issues, rulings with which the Shi`a notoriously and adamantly differ, such as the abolition of Mut`a, as Ibn Rushd's report in Bidayat al-Mujtahid citing Imam Ja`far's assimilation of mut`a to zinâ!
(3) Imam Malik was stricter than al-Bukhari and he did not take from Imam Ja`far unless there was someone else to confirm it as cited from his student Mus`ab by al-Dhahabi in Mizan al-I`tidal (1:414).
(4) And Imam al-Bukhari DOES take from Ja`far in his Khalq Af`al al-`Ibad, al-Adab al-Mufrad, the Minor and Major Tarikh, and probably also his Raf`al-Yadayn although I do not have it to check. And Allah knows best.

Why not in the Sahih? Because it is an abridgment and al-Bukhari specifically said he did not include all that is sahih in it. Hence he did not, in it, take from Imams Abu Hanifa nor al-Shafi`i either. Have you seen any Sunni, or even any Hanafi or Shafi`i clamor and whine why not or question its reliability for that?

Imam al-Tirmidhi also took from Ja`far in his Sunan and he did not come nor go one step without al-Bukhari, his teacher.

Bukhari admits that he has something in his heart against Ja'far. Even Dhahabi criticized Bukhari for that.

Not al-Bukhari. It is Yahya ibn Sa`id al-Qattan who reportedly admitted "having something in his heart against Ja`far" meaning his reliability as a narrator. It might - Allahu a`lam - have something to do with reports from Ja`far through his son Muhammad, who publicly admitted to forging hadiths as I documented in my recent post on the hadith of the angel of death asking permission.

Imam al-Bukhari definitely had something in his heart against Imam Abu Hanifa, do you see Hanafis attack the reliability of the Sahih for it? On the contrary, they and the rest of the Sunnis accept it as the soundest book under the sky after the Glorious Qur'an, on our head and our eyes.

Bukhari took traditions from clear Nasibis, those that fought and killed the Prophet's family. How can we fully trust such a source?

Correction: he took a couple of reports from two people who had been *accused* of being, or siding up with Nasibis; and only reports which had nothing to do with the issues pertaining to their alleged deviation.

In answer to the question: You (individually or as a group) may not have to fully trust that source but a sincere `âlim does, as do the true Ahl al-Bayt all over the Sunni world and countless in the Shi`i world also, in all conscience and freedom of facile emotions and cultural conditioning.

Yahya ibn Muhammad al-Dhuhli, Abu Hatim and his son, and others did not take from al-Bukhari because of a certain kalâm issue. Al-Dhahabi said: "Whether they care to take from him or not, he is the Imam and Mountain of the world and the foremost of them."

Allah bless and greet our Prophet and his Family and have mercy on all of the above and grant them the highest Paradises .

Hajj Gibril ©

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2001-06-16
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